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New Retiree Visa Rules Bewilder Thai Immigration
« στις: Φεβρουάριος 01, 2019, 21:58:04 μμ »
CONFIRMED: Foreigners now need to keep 800k in Thai bank for three months AFTER retirement extension is granted

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Thai immigration have announced a major change regarding the financial requirements needed when applying for an extension of stay based on retirement, often referred to as a retirement visa.

Confirmed in police order No. 35/2561 obtained by Thaivisa, foreigners who apply for a retirement extension using the 800k baht in the bank or the combination of income method now need to keep 800k baht in the bank for three months after the extension and 400k baht in the bank after that.

Foreigners must still be able to show the 800k baht in a Thai bank two months before the application for the retirement extension.

The requirements for a retirement extension according to the new police order are as follows:

(1) Must have been granted a non-immigrant visa (Non-Im)

(2) Must be 50 years of age or over

(3) Must have evidence of having income of no less than THB 65,000 or;

(4) At least 2 months prior to filing date, and at least 3 months after being granted permission, the alien must have fund deposited in a bank in Thailand of no less than THB 800,000. The alien can withdraw the fund 3 months after being granted permission and the remaining balance must be no less than THB 400,00 or;

(5) Must have and annual earning and fund deposited with a commercial bank in Thailand totalling of no less than THB 800,000 until the filing date. The said fund must remain in the account prior to and after the permission is granted and the alien can make a withdrawal under the same conditions as stated in (4).

The new requirements to keep 400k baht in the bank for three months after the retirement visa is granted is effective from 1st March 2019.

The new requirements are likely the result of immigration officials trying to put an end to the practice of visa agents falsifying bank statements for foreigners who do not have enough money to meet the financial requirements needed for a retirement extension.

In October 2018, the then newly appointed immigration chief Surachate Hakpan - known as Big Joke - vowed to crackdown on visa agents who falsify documents for foreigners applying for visas and extensions of stay.

The news comes after Fabulous 103 FM in Pattaya earlier reported that Thai immigration was considering introducing a requirement to force some retirees to show a bank statement with 800,000 baht balance every three months.

While the proposal reported by Fabulous 103 FM could be a separate requirement, Thaivisa believes that it is in fact the requirement detailed in the police order No. 35/2561.

- this is the order in Thai on the Thai Immigration website:https://www.immigration.go.th/read?content_id=5c515d0a753d2c5d3589c929

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Απ: New Retiree Visa Rules Bewilder Thai Immigration
« Απάντηση #1 στις: Φεβρουάριος 02, 2019, 10:40:43 πμ »
BANGKOK — Days after new rules changed how visas are processed for foreign retirees, immigration officials are already pushing back against them, according to sources inside the bureau.

Starting March 1, foreign retirees must either show a monthly income of at least 65,000 baht or hold a minimum of 800,000 baht in Thai banks. They must maintain that amount for three months after a visa or extension is granted, after which they can only take out half. The new rules also make unclear how long applicants must wait to learn whether their visas or extensions have been approved.

“We are discussing with the legal department what these new policies mean,” an immigration official involved in approving such applications said in an interview. “Right now we are all scrambling to find out what the procedures are.”

The source also said some operatives who oversee visa affairs will file memos to their commanders declaring that they are no longer sure how to process requests under the new regulations published Monday.

“We will ask them to reconsider,” said the official, who declined to give his name because he was not authorized to speak to the media.

Another official at the Immigration Bureau said the changes were ordered from the top after four embassies in Thailand – Britain, the United States, Denmark and Australia – stopped issuing affidavits certifying the monthly incomes of applicants from their respective countries.

“Therefore, the Immigration Bureau has to come up with its own methods of verifying the applicants’ financial status,” the source said on the same condition of anonymity.

Col. Nitipan Kanokvejyan, the officer who signed the new regulations, could not be reached for comment as of publication time.

Under the new rules, applicants for retirement visas must be 50 and up. They must either show evidence of monthly salaries of at least 65,000 baht transferred to a Thai bank account or balances of at least 800,000 baht in their Thai bank accounts.

The accounts have to bear the same names as the applicants. Spouses’ bank accounts are not eligible.

And the minimum amount of 800,000 baht must have been deposited two months before any visa application is filed, making that the mandatory balance for at least five months, plus application processing time.

The applicants (“aliens”) must continue to maintain at least 400,000 baht at all times, and the visa must be renewed yearly.

The change departed from previous rules which only required either an affidavits declaring a 65,000 baht salary or a one-time deposit of 800,000 baht at the time of application.

Reactions on Thaivisa, a webforum frequented by expats in Thailand, was overwhelmingly negative, with many commentators saying the regulations undercut claims from Thai officials that the deposit is to ensure they have sufficient resources to get by.

“Then why keep up the charade that this money is to cover living expenses if it can only be used six months out of the year,” user Connda wrote. “So…what’s next? What’s the next hammer to drop?”

“And I thought the 800,000 baht was for living expenses, not as an interest earner for the Thai banks!” user Madmitch vented.


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« Απάντηση #2 στις: Φεβρουάριος 06, 2019, 12:01:20 μμ »
Αν κατάλαβα καλά τα 400.000 THB από τα 800.000 THB που απαιτούνται συνολικά θα είναι εγκλωβισμένα για 5 μήνες (2 μήνες πριν + 3 μετά την αίτηση) και τα υπόλοιπα 400.000 THB θα είναι εγκλωβισμένα στις Ταιλανδικές τράπεζες για πάντα...  :(
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« Απάντηση #3 στις: Φεβρουάριος 07, 2019, 05:43:58 πμ »
Αν κατάλαβα καλά τα 400.000 THB από τα 800.000 THB που απαιτούνται συνολικά θα είναι εγκλωβισμένα για 5 μήνες (2 μήνες πριν + 3 μετά την αίτηση) και τα υπόλοιπα 400.000 THB θα είναι εγκλωβισμένα στις Ταιλανδικές τράπεζες για πάντα...  :(

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« Απάντηση #4 στις: Φεβρουάριος 07, 2019, 09:39:46 πμ »
Γιατί "αυστηροποιούνται" τόσο πολύ τα πράγματα, τα τελευταία χρόνια;

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Γιατί "αυστηροποιούνται" τόσο πολύ τα πράγματα, τα τελευταία χρόνια;
Γιατί το Βασίλειο χρειάζεται ξένους συνταξιούχους με καλό εισόδημα...ανεβάζουν τον μέσο όρο  :)
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